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> <channel><title>Comments on: McLaren, again?!</title> <atom:link href="http://nascentthinker.org/mclaren-again/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://nascentthinker.org/mclaren-again/</link> <description>&#34;Reason is flawless, de jure, but reasoners are not, de facto.&#34; - Peter Kreeft</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:57:18 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: Jeremy</title><link>http://nascentthinker.org/mclaren-again/#comment-5345</link> <dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:57:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nascentthinker.org/?p=1412#comment-5345</guid> <description>First things first, I more or less gave up following anything McLaren said shortly after writing this. So no, I still haven&#039;t read &quot;A New Kind of Christianity&quot;. I don&#039;t plan on it either, because it says the same things he says in his other writings - which I have read - and on his blog - which I still check out from time to time. Having flipped through the book at the local bookstore, there isn&#039;t anything new in it that would change my mind and suddenly cause me to start seeing McLaren as an authority. That said...
...There is a certain &#039;legitimacy&#039; to what you&#039;re saying, depending on your own presumptions and what you&#039;re looking for in a book (or in an author or spiritual leader, for that matter). Ignoring questions such as, &quot;is McLaren advocating teachings which are congruent / incongruent with historical (biblical) Christianity&quot;, some - as you have - might very well find a &quot;restoring, helpful, uplifting&quot; [sic] series of spiritual books. There could be any number of reasons for this, and for most of those reasons I understand why one would be especially attracted to McLaren or other &#039;emergent&#039; authors. &#039;The church&#039; appears to be outdated, outmoded and unable to cope with the advent of contemporary culture (whether you want to call it &#039;modern&#039; or &#039;postmodern&#039;).
If, however, you&#039;re looking for a book that teaches an authentic Christianity (by biblical standards) while also teaching a &#039;new way&#039; of doing Christianity (i.e. adapting to surroundings, new issues and facts of life, etc.). Then you probably aren&#039;t going to find it in McLaren, Bell, Pagitt, Jones, or any other &#039;emergent&#039; authors / pastors / spokespersons, etc. The few legitimate concerns of the emerging church (I see no distinction between emerging and emergent), which do warrant action, are squandered on what is little more than &#039;liberalism 2.0&#039;.
At the end of the day I&#039;m concerned with truth and the &#039;Christian narrative,&#039; which I believe is authoritative no matter the person (a meta narrative, if you will - the only entirely true one, when speaking of God). The truth I concern myself with might bring restoration, or it might not; it will assuredly be helpful, because it&#039;s true; it may be uplifting, or it may not be, and it may not be contained within a &#039;spiritual book&#039; (though I admit that looking for &#039;spiritual truth&#039; usually leads one to &#039;spiritual books&#039;).
I would have to agree with myself then. If our concern is biblical belief about Christ and His teachings, then McLaren is on dangerous ground, and teaches some dangerous things.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First things first, I more or less gave up following anything McLaren said shortly after writing this. So no, I still haven’t read “A New Kind of Christianity”. I don’t plan on it either, because it says the same things he says in his other writings — which I have read — and on his blog — which I still check out from time to time. Having flipped through the book at the local bookstore, there isn’t anything new in it that would change my mind and suddenly cause me to start seeing McLaren as an authority. That said…</p><p>…There is a certain ‘legitimacy’ to what you’re saying, depending on your own presumptions and what you’re looking for in a book (or in an author or spiritual leader, for that matter). Ignoring questions such as, “is McLaren advocating teachings which are congruent / incongruent with historical (biblical) Christianity”, some — as you have — might very well find a “restoring, helpful, uplifting” [sic] series of spiritual books. There could be any number of reasons for this, and for most of those reasons I understand why one would be especially attracted to McLaren or other ‘emergent’ authors. ‘The church’ appears to be outdated, outmoded and unable to cope with the advent of contemporary culture (whether you want to call it ‘modern’ or ‘postmodern’).</p><p>If, however, you’re looking for a book that teaches an authentic Christianity (by biblical standards) while also teaching a ‘new way’ of doing Christianity (i.e. adapting to surroundings, new issues and facts of life, etc.). Then you probably aren’t going to find it in McLaren, Bell, Pagitt, Jones, or any other ‘emergent’ authors / pastors / spokespersons, etc. The few legitimate concerns of the emerging church (I see no distinction between emerging and emergent), which do warrant action, are squandered on what is little more than ‘liberalism 2.0′.</p><p>At the end of the day I’m concerned with truth and the ‘Christian narrative,’ which I believe is authoritative no matter the person (a meta narrative, if you will — the only entirely true one, when speaking of God). The truth I concern myself with might bring restoration, or it might not; it will assuredly be helpful, because it’s true; it may be uplifting, or it may not be, and it may not be contained within a ‘spiritual book’ (though I admit that looking for ‘spiritual truth’ usually leads one to ‘spiritual books’).</p><p>I would have to agree with myself then. If our concern is biblical belief about Christ and His teachings, then McLaren is on dangerous ground, and teaches some dangerous things.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nick</title><link>http://nascentthinker.org/mclaren-again/#comment-5344</link> <dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:37:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nascentthinker.org/?p=1412#comment-5344</guid> <description>McLarens teachings, dangerous?
never heard such a thing.
McLarens books is the most restoring, helpful, uplifting, spiritual books i have read in a long time, including &quot;a new kind of christianity&quot; so if you haven&#039;t read it yet i would suggest you read it yourself without relying on other peoples reviews or preconceptions.
with love!
/Nick</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McLarens teachings, dangerous?<br
/> never heard such a thing.<br
/> McLarens books is the most restoring, helpful, uplifting, spiritual books i have read in a long time, including “a new kind of christianity” so if you haven’t read it yet i would suggest you read it yourself without relying on other peoples reviews or preconceptions.</p><p>with love!<br
/> /Nick</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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