Could I be Wrong?
The following is a fun (well, at least I had fun writing it) dialogue I wrote earlier today on one of the forums I’ve recently stopped regularly frequenting. It concerns the question ‘are you willing to admit you might be wrong?’ The dialogue was written in reply to someone who disagreed with me (did not think such an admission should be made).
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Characters: Socrates, Glaucon
Setting: After speaking with Euthyphro, Socrates is stopped by the Sophist Glaucon, a first year philosophy student who thinks he’s learned it all. Glaucon has heard the accusation that Socrates is corrupting the youth, teaching the young about ‘the God’ and denying the gods of the poets. Glaucon proceeds to examine to Socrates.
Glaucon: Socrates, much has been said of your new god — tell me, how did you come by him? Fancy or intoxication?
Socrates: Examination, of course — “following the argument wherever it leads”, as my student Plato likes to say. It took many years, as you can see I am now quite old.
Glaucon: Indeed, I can. And I suppose I should have known; the wisdom of Socrates always examines. It would appear you still have time before the council charges you, a question?
Socrates: Certainly. I would not be Socrates if I declined.
Glaucon: Very well — is it possible you could be wrong?
Socrates: Quite so — I arrived at my belief through examination. This involves a reliance on the senses, which can be faulty. It was at first questions like the Euthyphro, which had shown me the deficit of the poets gods, then it was the oracle herself. There are many reasons.
Glaucon: The oracle, you say — perhaps a defect in your psychology? The Euthyphro, an error in logic?
Socrates: Yes, perhaps so.
Glaucon: Then why should you teach? Sit still and alone, rather than engage in this foolish which denies the gods!
Socrates: I cannot — I am concerned with the truth, even if that means looking the fool (which I am), and denying the gods (which I do). The poets tell stories which ignite the imaginings of man, but that does not make them true. In any case, shall we examine your charge, that because I acknowledge I may be wrong, I have no right to teach?
Glaucon: As you say, you would not be Socrates if you did not. Proceed.
Socrates: There is a glaring hole in your proclamation, young Glaucon, you have assumed I have no good reasons for believing, and against this have compared my acknowledgment that I ‘may be wrong’. In such a way, you have tried to show me a fool, of believing without cause. Perhaps, you say, my logic is faulty, or I have gone mad if it is not. Maybe this is all a farce, I wear a mask with my head in the clouds. Tell me, Glaucon, do you know of the reasons why I believe?
Glaucon: No, it’s of no concern to me. You have admitted you may be wrong.
Socrates: It is of great concern to you, for you do not realize how ridiculous a question you’re asking.
Glaucon: Very well then. Why do you believe, Socrates?
Socrates: First, I have rejected the gods because they contradict. There is no justice between them. What Cronos declared as just, Zeus declared as unjust. What Hera believes about Achilles, Ares believes about Hektor. The Euthyphro has shown this much. If these exist, they are not gods though they may be powerful and still yet shape the lives of men. If they do not exist, it does not matter. Secondly, I have embraced the God because of the oracle at delphi, who after all this was not who I first believed. There is a prodding, an indication of when I should talk and what I should say, and now, what I should believe. This wise god has, as it were, accomodated me. I could not deny my own experience, not after years of examination have shown it to be true. I read also the wisdom of Saul, of that Southern kingdom. Of course, it would be foolish to believe in no god — look around you! The question is only, which god is the true god? And this I believe I found. There are others with stronger reasons than I — like the Hebrews, who claim to have experienced God in body and in sight. But unless you wish to be an itinerint skeptic, focused on pieces of doubt when whole pictures of reason are given, then I cannot convince you.
Glaucon: All well and good, but why is my question ridiculous?
Socrates: Because of what you’ve compared: something with nothing. You did not ask me why I believed, and yet you proceeded to assume that I must be mistaken because I admitted I could be wrong. Your question is ridiculous if you compare my reasons for belief, and my reasons for admitting I could be mistaken. I admit the latter only out of intellectual honesty. Perhaps the God I believe in is not the God I think he is — much like when I first believed the oracle of delphi. The former reasons for believing are many: reason, logic, examination, wisdom literature, nature, form, testimony of others, etc. If I told you I had seen my God, would your question still hold its force? I would be answering you honestly because I will always examine that which is brought up to me. But this no more makes your question any more serious, or coherent.
Glaucon: I suppose not… But as you’ve admitted you could be wrong, I see nothing that changes this fact.
Socrates: Then you are blind. Let me ask you — could you be wrong?
Glaucon: I really must be going Socrates.
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Hey Jeremy. Not surprised to see you post that here. Just a minor grammar check. In the setting is a pronoun issue “a first year philosophy student who thinks they’ve learned it all”. I think “they’ve” should be “he’s”.
All the best.
You are correct ;(